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S2E3 LEARNING TO CODE AT A YOUNG AGE WITH AVI FLOMBAUM. Avi No problem glad to be here Laurence, Laurence So could you just kind of start out by introducing yourself. to the listeners, Avi Sure I m one of the co founders of the Flatiron School. We re an in person and online vocational school for. people that want to become developers We started, around 4 1 2 years ago based out of New York It s been a. lot of fun getting people jobs and teaching them how to. Laurence Awesome yeah I m so excited to have you on because. you have a really unique story I was actually reading a bit. about you before the podcasts some older interviews you. did Probably not everyone knows this but you began. learning at a really young age how to code right, Avi Yeah I remember starting to pick up HTML and some. basic programming around 4th or 5th grade, Laurence Wow Do you I know that maybe your memory s not.
great I know mine s not that great from back then but do. you remember kind of what led you to even learn initially. Avi Yeah I remember pretty explicitly One my mom was a. teacher at my elementary school and she would tutor kids. after school and I would have to basically wait at school. for her to be done The school had one computer at that. point maybe another one in the library I remember there. was one in the mezzanine where the teachers used to. hang out and I would sit there and play with the computer. after school, Computers back then weren t exactly user friendly so. you d turn them on and all you d get was like a blinking. L E A R N T O C O D E W I T H M E 2, S2E3 LEARNING TO CODE AT A YOUNG AGE WITH AVI FLOMBAUM. green prompt You kind of learned there was some kind. of built in games into the operating system and one of. them was like Nibbles where it was like a snake and. you re eating these boxes and you get longer and bigger I. kind of gured out how to beat the game and I found a. le that was the source code of it and I opened it and at. the top of the le was all these variable declarations like. Speed 10 I kind of thought to myself well what if, speed equals 100 So then the game was way faster That. was kind of the rst time I realized that software s. But generally I really loved computer games and when. you buy your six oppy disc set of King s Quest and you re. trying to install it in DOS on a Windows machine in like. 1994 again you kind of have to understand a little bit. about what a le system is and what a command prompt. is and what installing something means So the, computers weren t something super easy to use and you. had to be sort of a hobbyist and get a technical uency. that we take for granted today That s kind of how I. started getting technically uent, Laurence Yeah that s so interesting because I can only imagine you.
really were learning from doing right You didn t have a. book or anything that you were learning from, Avi At that point I didn t have a book What started happening. is I was kind of I always played the computer a lot and my. parents and my parent s friends identi ed me as Oh. you re a computer geek So they would start as I got a. little older I remember for my birthday or holidays or. things like that I started getting these weird computer. books I remember I got Tom s Hardware De nitive Guide. How to Build Your Own Computer It was this massive. 600 page hardcover book They kind of talked about what. a CPU is and a motherboard and RAM and hard drives. and all those kind of components I remember that book. L E A R N T O C O D E W I T H M E 3, S2E3 LEARNING TO CODE AT A YOUNG AGE WITH AVI FLOMBAUM. Then I remember also my parent s friends we had this. one neighbor like a block away his son was friends with. my brother his dad was a programmer and I d go over to. hang out with my brother and his friend and I d end up. hanging out with his dad and he d show me what he did I. think he was some sort of DBA or something, So that kind of helped a little bit It was really once I got to. 7th and 8th grade that I got a little more serious about it. and actually started going after books and trying to nd. books to read on programming and things like that, Laurence Yeah wow So throughout high school then you. continued kind of dabbling and doing things with, Avi Yeah and I remember the big moment was like when the.
rst time I really signed onto the internet I don t know if it. was the rst time but there was a moment when I, realized what the internet was and I was like Man this. thing is going to be giant I want to build this Then I was. trying to get serious about it, I wanted to be a computer expert Whatever that meant I. didn t really know yet but I gured out that there was. something called NetSuite or Dreamweaver 5 50 that. would let you layout web pages without knowing, programming or HTML The problem was the markup. they generated was or like if you wanted to change. something that the program the WYSIWYG or the GUI, didn t support you couldn t do that Whenever I was. editing in like NetSuite or Dreamweaver in like 7th or 8th. grade you export the site you designed as something. called HTML And again kind of the same way I opened up. the source code for Nibbles I just opened up those les. and I was like Well there are two things here there s. learning how to use Dreamweaver or there s learning. whatever Dreamweaver is making It seems like one of. them is a real permanent thing and the other is just. L E A R N T O C O D E W I T H M E 4, S2E3 LEARNING TO CODE AT A YOUNG AGE WITH AVI FLOMBAUM.
So I decided then in 8th grade to just learn HTML What I. did was I built the website for my community center the. YMHA which was like riverdaley org in 8th grade and I. built it for them for free to trade for dial up because we. couldn t have dial up at home Basically because they. needed a web host you get a free dial up account to. access your web server I asked them if I could use that. from my house too They said Sure just build us this. Laurence Wow that s amazing It sounds like you were very. industrious growing up, Avi Yeah I always used to try and sell my baseball cards. running a lemonade stand things like that, Laurence Building the website for the community center in the 8th. grade I think that s the earliest I ve heard an example of. freelancing I know some people who would do it maybe. in high school building websites for some extra money. but 8th grade that s de nitely quite young Okay so then. I know from doing some research on some other things I. know you went to college could you remind me where. that is again, Avi University of Wisconsin in Madison. Laurence Okay great You didn t study computers through right. Avi No I would say that I studied nothing but the majors I. was trying to declare were creative writing and lm. Laurence Okay so how did that kind of happen What you were. telling me from elementary school through high school it. L E A R N T O C O D E W I T H M E 5, S2E3 LEARNING TO CODE AT A YOUNG AGE WITH AVI FLOMBAUM. sounds like you had this deep passion for doing things. with computers but then you ended up studying, something completely di erent.
Avi I also had a deep passion for movies and creative writing. I think that the nature of software is expression and so it. shares more with things like storytelling and weaving. narratives and especially like editing and montages and. remixing than I think people give it credit for I don t see a. huge delta between my love of writing ction and making. things up and my love of writing software, Laurence So when you say movies do you mean like movie editing. or like lm like the study of lm, Avi I think the study of lm theory is very much the study of. editing and composition and narrative I think those are. the tools and mechanics of the medium itself I did want. to make movies and I learned how to cut lm on a bolex. and edit and things like that you know use a non linear. editor like Avid and stu So I d make little movies. throughout high school I knew how to use a camera The. production of it was interesting to me but more, interesting to me was the theory of it just lm theory. right Why do we like movies this way and you know what. is the nature of the medium and how do we tell or evoke. emotion or experience through this, Laurence Got it So after college what was kind of your next move. after that, Avi So throughout high school around when I was like 16 I.
got a little more serious about programming and started. working for startups in the city during the summer after. class for work study senior year So I was kind of like. already getting paid to program and that s when I also. L E A R N T O C O D E W I T H M E 6, S2E3 LEARNING TO CODE AT A YOUNG AGE WITH AVI FLOMBAUM. started just nding and stealing and reading books as. much as possible So I kind of was pretty voracious about. teaching myself things and the internet had begun, So there was a website like Web Monkey or something. and W3Schools While there wasn t Stack Over ow there. were starting to be free resources online that you could. learn from There was a very active let s call it a hacker. community in IRC which I was pretty into that also. between my friends in IRC and things like that and those. communities and the books and the websites I started. getting a better understanding of how software works. how it s developed what are the di erent components. and systems the architects and things, When I got to college I started doing some really light. web design or web work freelance work for this hedge. fund I basically made them their homepage The CEO and. I got along and he then asked me if I could make, remember when you had a Windows CD and you could. put it in a computer and it would some of them would. auto load a program just start up They had this, investment management software they were trying to.
download a conference and they wanted it so that when. you put in the CD it just started I remember that s like an. autoload ini le you have to burn onto this CD, additionally that tells Windows what to do when the CD is. inserted So I just wrote them one and he liked that I also. made a CD stamp for them so they could knock it out. those unlabeled burnt CDs but rather let s make a stamp. on it and put a logo I made the stamp myself I was never. really good at design but they didn t care They just liked. that I was doing more than was asked of me, Throughout college my freshman year they would. constantly throw me these odd technical jobs Some were. related to programming they knew I could do more than. that than HTML and CSS and design and auto loading. CDs One day the CEO called me and it was toward the. end of my freshman year and was like Okay we want to. build this program to invest in lawsuits and we need to be. L E A R N T O C O D E W I T H M E 7, S2E3 LEARNING TO CODE AT A YOUNG AGE WITH AVI FLOMBAUM. able to predict when a lawsuit is going to settle and for. how much based on some variables and not accidents. Then we need to be able to manage the ow of these, lawsuits and get police reports and medical reports and. talk to their lawyers and things like that and track the. investments Do you do that stu also That s what he. asked me And I remember being like Sure yeah I do, that stu And he was like Why don t you nd a ComSci.
major at Wisconsin and come up with a pitch You know. what we re building I d been around that summer so I d. seen what they were working on their investment pieces. and I was like Sure I ll do that So luckily my best friend. in college my roommate was a ComSci major and told. him Hey we get a free trip to New York if we just come. up with some pitch Who cares if we even get the job. They ew us out to New York and I d written out this. massive spec it s going to automate faxes and when we. receive a fax it s going to be automatically associated with. the case so we don t need intake sta and we ll use. LexisNexis and Westlaw to make these predictions on. lawsuits Just kind of wrote out this giant dream And he s. like This sounds great how much is it going to cost. And I remember that was a pivotal moment because I. really had to like say the biggest number I could come up. with So I was like 12 000 And he was like Done, Then I went back to school and it was the beginning of. sophomore year and I was basically just writing code all. day and I barely made a dent in the software I got really. nervous because I was not going to class I was dropping. or getting incompletes or failing them I called him and I. was like Jack I can t do this I m not doing well in college. right now I m giving you your money back I haven t spent. any of it but I can t do this He was like Avi you can t. leave me like this I made promises to investors I ve got. this whiz kid in Wisconsin building this program You don t. have to give me everything you promised me but just. give me something so I don t look stupid So I basically. boiled the program down to this simple prediction model. and a very simple work ow And I just built it just brute. forced it just 20 hours a day I showed it to them in the. L E A R N T O C O D E W I T H M E 8, S2E3 LEARNING TO CODE AT A YOUNG AGE WITH AVI FLOMBAUM. winter and they really liked it They were like This is. teach you the skills you need to land a career as a developer Get 500 o your rst month by visiting atironbootcampprep com Hey listeners welcome to the Learn to Code With Me podcast I m your host Laurence Bradford In today s episode I talk with Avi Flombaum founder and dean of the Flatiron School Avi learned how to code at a very

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